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wil_m
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Does anyone know if the Management Spring Training page Starter Pitch Count Limit also has a minimum of 75.

Can it be set lower to cause less work load on your starters?



Updated Wednesday, February 22 2017 @ 6:13:23 am PST
Deuce
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There's no minimum on pitch counts..Spring or Regular season.
Deuce
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There's no minimum on pitch counts..Spring or Regular season.
wil_m
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Thanks, that is right.

I guess I was meaning the note at the end of the management page that says,

"Note: Starting pitchers will have a minimum of pitch count of 75 and minimum hook of 5 regardless of management settings"

This appears in the spring training management page as well. So I was just wondering if that was really enforced for spring training also?

Seems like for spring training you may want to limit your starters to below 75 pitches.



amalric7
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There is a minimum on pitch counts, and you quoted the correct passage:-

"Note: Starting pitchers will have a minimum of pitch count of 75 and minimum hook of 5 regardless of management settings."

If you really want to limit your starters in spring training you have options:-

1. Don't play them at all. If they're 25+ and/or seasoned regulars they won't gain anything from it anyway - ST is for youngsters. This also means your best pitchers will avoid injuries, and once you get a 30+ game injury to a starter you wonder why you ever played them during ST.

2. If you do want to play your starters, don't play them as starters, ie. swap roles. Play your young prospects or bullpen arms as the starters and move your normal starters to bullpen roles. That way you can cut their number of pitches & hook right down.
wil_m
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Thanks amalric7,

Those are great ideas! I will do that - swap roles.


I would not play my experienced players at all, but I am wondering if playing them in Spring Training some will help them get off to a good start in the season. Sort of like real MLB spring training.

I do not know, but just wondering if the game factors that in to how players start the season . . . playing hot or cold?
Deuce
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A minimum there is, you padawan! lol
Rock777
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I do not believe that spring training has any effect on players form. It generally considered appropriate to only play developing players in spring training.

Another way to manager pitch count is by setting a really low hook. But that is inconsistent and hard to work with.
wil_m
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Thanks,

I was wondering if my experienced players sat during spring training if they would start season cold and "rusty". I guess then that that is not an issue. But I may play my starters some little bit just in case. :-)

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I've wondered about the effects of sitting senior players all spring, but I've had both hot and cold starts to seasons when sitting them, so I don't believe it actually has any effect. It might just seem that way!
wil_m
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Yea is has seemed that way to me at the start of a couple seasons.

But maybe spring training had no effect.

One thing I just noticed is that all of players have their form set to "average" So I wonder if I do not play them in spring training if their form will remain "average" until the start of the season.

I am also going to note how many of my starters that I do give some spring training time start the season at "Hot" or "cold"

Should be interesting!
Rock777
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Form can be a bit misleading. This is not a predictive value. Rather it is based 100% on recent performance (AVE or ERA specifically). So yes, if they have not statistics because they haven't had any ABs, then the Form will stay average. As soon as they have their first at bat it will jump to hot or cold depending on if they got a hit.
FreddyTheEye
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Game 1 of spring and my pitch count was set to 80 but my starter threw 130 going the distance in a 13-0 shut out.

No idea why he never came out..

Anyone else have this issue?
FreddyTheEye
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strange...game two starter also goes the distance, blowing past his pitch count.
JJNZ
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Have you fiddled with any of the default settings Freddy? I've had no issues here.
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Do you have anyone set as a LR who can come in in blowouts? I haven't had any problems with my two blowout wins, one guy was pulled at his count, the other threw a CG in well under his limit.
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You think that's it? It happened again in game three so maybe you are right. They were all blow out games.

I just changed from 2xLHR 2xRHR and 2x setup so now i have a mid and long reliever.

We'll see if that fixes the issue. I expect it will. Thanks guys.


edit: yep that was the problem!

Updated Saturday, February 25 2017 @ 3:54:12 pm PST
wil_m
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Something like that happened to me as couple seasons ago. I made a mistake and set up my regular management settings for what I wanted in spring training by accident. And since my spring training management settings were different, I got wildly different results than I wanted. Other than something like that happening, I am not sure why pitch count limits would be ignored.

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