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#62366	01/04/2019 5:20:11 am	Mar 14th, 2039
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1130 Deerfield Beach Rats V.7	Just landed Luis Versalles in the second round. I think he’ll do.

#62368	01/04/2019 5:22:35 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Luizmussa Joined: 01/23/2014 Posts: 120 Inactive	Well, got a 14 POT Outfielder out of the High School pool... 18 years old... Here is Javier Heredia

#62369	01/04/2019 5:52:03 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Longviewess Joined: 09/23/2018 Posts: 111 Frederick Keys III.3	I had 0 Pitchers and exactly 1 player with Good or higher potential to choose from and he turned into an 11 potential SS with a Range of 7. How is a player like that even allowed to be pulled from the draft pool in Round 2? Talk about a kick in the pants for a new team trying to build up their talent base. http://brokenbat.org/player/192340

#62370	01/04/2019 5:54:37 am	Mar 14th, 2039
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Had one VG option, so had to take him. Very Good is overstating his true potential, but he's not a bad looking pitching prospect. http://brokenbat.org/player/192337 Updated Friday, January 4 2019 @ 5:56:45 am PST

#62371	01/04/2019 6:20:07 am	Mar 14th, 2039
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Round 2 draft: Only 1 pitcher available. He had no scouting report. Only a few position players with "good" reports. One had only good... no other qualifiers. One looked like an ok catcher prospect, the other looked like a middle infielder who cannot hit. Grabbed the "good" Catcher prospect who turned out to be 11 pot. This is where the problem is. Cc Official Draft Change Discussion

#62373	01/04/2019 6:58:17 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I got all junk options per norm. Picked the best of the junk, an "Above Average" POT 10 C&R.

#62374	01/04/2019 6:58:19 am	Mar 14th, 2039
StretchDynamo Joined: 05/16/2016 Posts: 64 Inactive	So I had 3 good looking pitching prospects. 1) Strike Out Pitcher, Major League Breaking Ball, Limited Innings, Above Avg Potential 2) Fastball with pop, Major league breaking ball, Good potential 3) Fastball with pop, major league breaking ball, limited innings, Very Good potential I ended up going with option 1 http://brokenbat.org/player/192445 because his fastball is supposed to be top tier, and as a reliever candidate, that was more important to me than his potential. That combined with the fact he's a 6'7'' lefty helped. I questioned the very good player because he had a worse looking make-up than the above avg besides the potential. Ultimately, I'm not upset with the choice at all. Although Melton is slightly underdeveloped for age 22, I think in a couple years he will be a good set up man or closer. Updated Friday, January 4 2019 @ 6:58:37 am PST

#62376	01/04/2019 7:51:43 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Luizmussa Joined: 01/23/2014 Posts: 120 Inactive	The one thing I learned along all this years playing BB: you ALWAYS go with the Very Good option, no matter the position, no matter the lack of control, no matter the limited innings.

#62377	01/04/2019 8:54:19 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I might not pick a Very Good that "can never be a decent hitter", but generally that is good advice. I very rarely have a "Very Good" option on my board, so its generally a no brainier for me if one does pop up.

#62379	01/04/2019 9:09:27 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 290 Hood River Hawks IV.1	F**** Rd 2 no "good potentials" even only 2 "above average" I took 1 of them though neither were in positions that I wanted. I got this useless s*. I was seriously thinking of taking a player that only had "limited to only a few innings". Seems like I should have. I might be done with this game. Steve -- please fix the draft by the start of next season. There is hardly any skill in the draft, yet it is so vital in fielding a good team.

#62381	01/04/2019 9:43:24 am	Mar 14th, 2039
GullyFoyle Joined: 02/16/2016 Posts: 129 Spokane Wolves IV.5	Had a couple of very goods. Not sure how many goods but at least two of those. Chose the very good pitcher: http://brokenbat.org/player/192335 Second 13 pot pitcher in a row, so not displeased so far.

#62383	01/04/2019 10:05:06 am	Mar 14th, 2039
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1002 Deadwood Perambulators II.1	Not a terrible pick, but he’s not better than anyone in my minors so I cut him. Someone may find him worth developing. http://brokenbat.org/player/192339

#62384	01/04/2019 10:24:34 am	Mar 14th, 2039
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1269 Corvallis Ravens II.1	I mean ... what do you do? You have to give him a season minimum, right? I've never seen a college player so far behind in development, but a 14 POT SP with a movement pitch is tough to throw away immediately. But even with 10 SI a season... shrug Damn shame.

#62385	01/04/2019 11:04:28 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Shoeless Joe Joined: 10/07/2017 Posts: 17 Inactive	Despite having a lot of young pitching talent in my minors during this rebuild, I couldn't pass up on: He can have a major league fastball. His slider can be exceptional. He will have the stamina to be a starting pitcher. He has very good overall potential. Looking forward to when this guy gets the call to the Show.

#62386	01/04/2019 11:21:11 am	Mar 14th, 2039
Meccanodonte Joined: 04/21/2014 Posts: 370 Inactive	I was hesitant with two players, one with a intriguing scouting report but AA pot and the one I picked: http://brokenbat.org/player/192428 He's a pot 13, but I don't like the build. No defensive home, right handed hitter without power. I'll see if he can swipe bags, at least, but he's a candidate to be dropped.

#62388	01/04/2019 12:51:43 pm	Mar 14th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	@wickersty - That's a tough one. L/R are really valuable, in the field, but that guy could really only aspire to 3B. But to get enough Fielding for 3B a POT 12 is likely going to fall short on the batting side. Probably the right choice, but I would have felt bad not giving him a test run. Then again... I have a similar guy training at 3B right now. And the fact he has hit well just makes it that much harder to cut him...

#62389	01/04/2019 2:06:36 pm	Mar 14th, 2039
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1059 Colorado Springs Vultures VI.28	2B Great Britain pot12

#62390	01/04/2019 3:19:59 pm	Mar 15th, 2039
Mesh77 Joined: 10/25/2016 Posts: 144 Palo Alto Invaders V.15	Pity this guy is all lefty, but I'll certainly take it. I have a bunch of 3B and that's a lot of fielding to 'waste' at 1B or C, but the range isn't great for OF though that (or 3B) is where he'll likely end up.

#62391	01/04/2019 4:00:56 pm	Mar 15th, 2039
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2239 New York Lancers V.4	Haven't seen a very good this draft season so happy to have got a 13 POT in round one. This round wasn't a bad pick but underwhelming for round two, 12 POT SP. Not sure he'll last.

#62395	01/04/2019 8:30:58 pm	Mar 16th, 2039
Jwrose Joined: 07/07/2016 Posts: 95 Parma Dodgers V.10	@lostraven you have to wonder how in the world a 22yr old college pitcher is that underdeveloped. I mean,he must have had tommy john surgery his freshman and still hasn’t recovered right? Lol

#62397	01/05/2019 7:25:18 am	Mar 16th, 2039
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1269 Corvallis Ravens II.1	@jwrose: At least that would make sense. As is, I'm finding it difficult to explain why his SI is so low. I'm guessing there are some mins and maxes plugged into each draft pool, and on average you have something like mid-50s to upper 60s for college players. The thirties must be the lowest end of the scale, right? It's definitely a first for my eyes. Or at least I think so. Let's try something. Here is that old dataset from my 2035, Round 1 draft research. I set up a filter to show only the college players. There were 150 of them. Here are the starting SI values for the top 10 lowest: * 29 * 32 * 37 * 38 * 40 * 41 * 41 * 44 * 44 * 45 This means that out of those 150 college players, only four players had starting SI of 39 or less, or 2.7%. Additionally, I ran the AVERAGE of the starting SI for all 150 players: 63.1, which is right within that range I stated earlier. (By the way, on the other end of the spectrum, there were only three players out of 150 who had starting SI 90 or greater.) All that's to say that it's not unheard of to have a college player with a starting SI in the thirties, but I definitely dug into the very bottom percentile. :/ Updated Saturday, January 5 2019 @ 7:25:47 am PST

#62402	01/05/2019 2:47:26 pm	Mar 17th, 2039
Curveball Joined: 06/28/2018 Posts: 14 Inactive	http://brokenbat.org/player/192687 14 POT pitcher This is now back to back 14 POT in rd 1 & 2 http://brokenbat.org/draft/553

#62403	01/05/2019 3:00:51 pm	Mar 17th, 2039
Longviewess Joined: 09/23/2018 Posts: 111 Frederick Keys III.3	Very impressive @Curveball. Almost identical scouting reports too. Congrats!

#62404	01/05/2019 3:02:40 pm	Mar 17th, 2039
JJNZ Joined: 12/09/2014 Posts: 1581 Yakima Monster III.3	@lostraven - don't be too disheartened by it, as a comparison Hayagawa was drafted with 50 SI, in AAA, I made him spend a lot of extra time in AAA but he's only 1 SI away from hitting his potential.

#62407	01/05/2019 4:34:38 pm	Mar 18th, 2039
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1269 Corvallis Ravens II.1	@JJNZ: Hooooly! Those gains! eyes bug out

#62408	01/05/2019 6:00:45 pm	Mar 18th, 2039
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5203 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	There is a lad on waivers at the moment that gained 45 SI in the majors. IIRC the most I've seen is 60. I would be more worried about Houser's HR ratio after the season than his current SI. Dinos had 2 VG pitchers on the board. Both 18 yr righties. Took the one with more upside in the scouting report. Also has some work to do gaining SI, but an arm with some upside is welcome. Side note: took a pitcher from the Asian pool in week 1. Rarely use that pool. Had a realistic feel to it. Much more "what did we get" then a guy that works through the minors. Has had a good spring. Will break with the big club in the bullpen.

#62420	01/07/2019 7:36:15 am	Mar 20th, 2039
tdawg1413 Joined: 07/27/2018 Posts: 29 Inactive	This was a nice one to get http://brokenbat.org/player/192379

#62467	01/09/2019 11:30:29 pm	Apr 3rd, 2039
TPS Joined: 10/19/2016 Posts: 120 Dallas Dragons IV.8	My draft pick

#62468	01/10/2019 5:13:51 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
Luizmussa Joined: 01/23/2014 Posts: 120 Inactive	Oh, 12POT very good players. That should be forbidden.

#62471	01/10/2019 8:20:55 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	A 12 POT Very Good is most likely really an inaccurately rated 13 POT.

#62473	01/10/2019 9:04:26 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Stating your theories as fact is a bad practice. I believe the game's statements.

#62474	01/10/2019 9:26:55 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I believe the manual: So are the skill values displayed for each player accurate? Just as in real baseball, where there is some uncertainty about a player's talent level, in Broken Bat there is also built-in uncertainty in displayed skill levels. The visible skill values for each player are an approximation of his current actual skill level and may deviate by up to 20% from it true value for some skills. Pretty pathetic if you still think ratings are 100% accurate after this many seasons of playing the game, LOL.

#62475	01/10/2019 9:29:28 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Stating your theories as fact is a bad practice. Says the guys that is constantly stating this theories as fact, LOL!

#62477	01/10/2019 11:06:33 am	Apr 3rd, 2039
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5203 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Oh, 12POT very good players. That should be forbidden. I'm running 10/28 12 pot on my major league roster this season (36%). Have another 8 12 pot guys in the minors. Embrace the 12 pots!

#62480	01/10/2019 1:58:11 pm	Apr 3rd, 2039
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I never said the reports are 100% accurate. You said... A 12 POT Very Good is most likely* really an inaccurately rated 13 POT.* That is your theory. I say that's hogwash and trust the stated numerical potential rating to be the most reliable predicting factor for SI. Fact as stated by Steve--The VG rating is given before the player is fully created. My inference--If the draft spawns bad luck for the previously undetermined skills of a VG player, they end up as lowly 12's. Updated Thursday, January 10 2019 @ 2:14:48 pm PST

#62490	01/10/2019 8:25:26 pm	Apr 7th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9608 Haverhill Halflings III.1	LOL. You really are clueless. You can keep ignoring the obvious gaping hole in your "logic" if you like. More advantage to me EDIT: Can't resist, giving a hint, LOL Fact as stated by Steve--The VG rating is given before the player is fully created. Updated Thursday, January 10 2019 @ 8:26:20 pm PST