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#63637	03/09/2019 1:14:41 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Here's an imaginary guy that looks like he could make for a nice shortstop in the future. Use the Free Agents tab to locate him to put in your claim. He's only 16 so you can limit it to players under 17 since there aren't many that young and look for him, Oscar Zaragoza, on the list. Updated Saturday, March 9 2019 @ 2:14:05 pm PST

#63640	03/09/2019 2:21:51 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1269 Corvallis Ravens II.1	Ok, call me completely confused. 1. How did you find him? He shows as a high school junior. 2. If he is a HS junior, he shouldn't be able to be claimed yet. In fact, when I search for him in the free agent search, he doesn't come up. But you make it sound like you were able to put a claim on him? Me=baffled.

#63642	03/09/2019 4:28:07 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
Blackbeard Joined: 02/02/2019 Posts: 36 Inactive	I could see this player by clicking on the link. However I could not find him by searching for 16 to 17 year olds. Since this is named the Imaginary Prayers thread then maybe we need to realize or some how accept that this is in reality imaginary and somehow make believe? So I'm wondering how this high school player can be found other than clicking the link? It isn't pointing to an off site location so it can't be a photo shopped picture. Inquiring minds want to know about this Imaginary high school Player. lol Updated Saturday, March 9 2019 @ 4:29:54 pm PST Updated Saturday, March 9 2019 @ 4:30:39 pm PST

#63643	03/09/2019 4:37:49 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
RDailey1948 Joined: 12/29/2016 Posts: 147 Inactive	I got him when I set bits in all three fields; FA and waivers and undercontract. I searched 16 age. I assume this may be related to Draft changes?????

#63644	03/09/2019 4:42:42 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
Longviewess Joined: 09/23/2018 Posts: 111 Frederick Keys III.3	I suspect it is something that may have been revealed by accident then quickly taken down. However, there is clearly something afoot. I'm sure it is related to the new Amateur/Undrafted feature on each players page.

#63648	03/09/2019 5:27:07 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
g10rsh Joined: 02/05/2016 Posts: 170 Champaign Suzumebachi VI.2	Some other suspicious characters Deon Greenwell http://brokenbat.org/player/196957 Updated Saturday, March 9 2019 @ 5:30:52 pm PST

#63651	03/09/2019 6:26:14 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 290 Hood River Hawks IV.1	I got him when I set bits in all three fields; FA and waivers and undercontract. I couldn't get him until I did above. Previously I only did FA & waivers. He isn't really under contract like we know it. If you bookmark, he will be listed as "Not Initalized". This must be the Amateur/Undrafted change. i am curious to hear from Steve all about it. Updated Saturday, March 9 2019 @ 6:30:55 pm PST

#63653	03/09/2019 9:44:30 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I stumbled across them because I like noting the last player of each draft. Those guys intrigued me.

#63657	03/10/2019 12:29:06 am	Jan 15th, 2040
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1130 Deerfield Beach Rats V.7	A bit of research (mostly involving brute-forcing URLs) shows that there’s a whole collection of these guys from Player IDs #196915 through #196979. At a guess, he’s borrowing a page from Hardwood, where the players have careers after their college days — this looks to be sort of turning it the other way around. It’s almost certain to be related to future draft changes. I have to echo Mike’s sentiment: I’m intrigued!

#63729	03/14/2019 12:37:08 pm	Feb 12th, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	I generated a handful of players to start exercising new prospect code (which is still under development). Anyhow, this player should (depending on my coding skills) start to play in a few high school games and have stats. And at the end of the year, he will move up to a high school senior with a bit more training and experience. Eventually, a pool of these types of players will replace when current draft options. But I wanted to start exercising the code on the server to make sure it works. Steve

#63730	03/14/2019 2:41:53 pm	Feb 15th, 2040
Benchwarmer Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 445 Inactive	So, we will have actual stats to look at when drafting? Count me in!

#63731	03/14/2019 3:13:59 pm	Feb 16th, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	Yes, players will have statistics from high school, junior college and college depending on age if they are from North America. Others prospects will have statistics from Latin, Asian or International leagues -- separate competitions since age ranges for Latin American players are different than other prospect types. Steve

#63732	03/14/2019 3:32:50 pm	Feb 16th, 2040
wick Joined: 02/26/2018 Posts: 56 Bayonne Bleeders VI.30	This could be interesting and cool. Looking forward to seeing it!

#63733	03/14/2019 3:32:50 pm	Feb 16th, 2040
wick Joined: 02/26/2018 Posts: 56 Bayonne Bleeders VI.30	This could be interesting and cool. Looking forward to seeing it!

#63737	03/14/2019 6:38:17 pm	Feb 19th, 2040
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1059 Colorado Springs Vultures VI.28	Will we know more? Steve. Knew features?

#63743	03/14/2019 10:54:43 pm	Feb 19th, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	Well, a lot is still under development. The idea is to have a richer amount of information for draftees. Also, to eventually give people somewhat more control of the drafting process -- without forcing people to comb through the either draft field. But for this season, there is no change. Steve

#63771	03/15/2019 9:27:50 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	High School Phenom: Mario Grove Steve

#63772	03/15/2019 10:18:39 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
dsz071 Joined: 09/12/2015 Posts: 334 Inactive	Eventually, a pool of these types of players will replace when current draft options. Does this mean that eventually, when we select our pool we want to draft from that we will get a group of 10 players to choose from but now we will be able to sort through them and look at stats before making our choice?

#63773	03/15/2019 11:15:14 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
ephenssta Joined: 06/29/2016 Posts: 196 Inactive	I really like how this looks! Should be interesting to see it play out

#63781	03/16/2019 8:18:50 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Great. Now I will be able to pick the "best" Above Average talent guy in my 1st round draft pool... Hopefully this will be coming with other changes as well, because right now there isn't really any choice in our draft pools anyhow. In the first round I either pick the one "Good Potential" guy I was lucky enough to draw, or one of the "Above Average" guys who then gets cut right away. Don't see high school stats having any impact what-so-ever in those choices.

#63785	03/16/2019 9:27:19 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	High school stats gain value as your slate becomes more uniform. We don't know how this will roll out. There seem to be hints that the selection process will be broader in scope. Should maybe reserve judgement until we know more.

#63788	03/16/2019 11:56:11 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	When it rolls out really depends on how fast I can implement and test everything. I am hoping to switch over to the "new" prospects next season. Maybe some prospect draft options doesn't happen until a follow next....just not sure yet. Steve

#63806	03/17/2019 6:33:58 pm	Mar 6th, 2040
Geech Joined: 01/12/2014 Posts: 545 San Luis Obispo Turtles IV.8	Yeah, I'm pretty interested in seeing what this change brings.

#63807	03/17/2019 8:04:47 pm	Mar 6th, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Like I said, if it comes with other changes that is great. But if we still get screwed over with slabs full of "above average" players in the first three rounds of the draft, then really nothing has changed.

#63816	03/18/2019 12:59:52 pm	Mar 6th, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	Confused...should not the earlier rounds have better players? Steve

#63817	03/18/2019 1:57:21 pm	Mar 6th, 2040
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1130 Deerfield Beach Rats V.7	They should. The complaint is that it’s all too common for them not to.

#63821	03/18/2019 7:36:07 pm	Mar 8th, 2040
Geech Joined: 01/12/2014 Posts: 545 San Luis Obispo Turtles IV.8	The early rounds in aggregate are almost certainly more talented than the later rounds. I vaguely recall Mike doing some research about that and averaging drafted SI and it did show a gradual decline. However, obviously individual teams can have different experiences in the draft.

#64081	03/25/2019 4:42:08 pm	Mar 24th, 2040
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	Things have changed a bit to much for this player to be visible still. Steve