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Jason2327
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What does f.i.p. Stand for in pitching stats?
Spoonerific
Joined: 01/17/2013
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It stands for Fielding Independent Pitching and is calculated as: [(HR+BB-K)/(IP)]
Jason2327
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Rock777
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Its a pretty useful measure, but I still prefer looking at less composited stats: H/IP, K/BB, and GB/FB.
Jason2327
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What is a good number for gb/fb ratio? Below 1?
xLee227
Joined: 07/06/2015
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I believe you ideally want a GB/FB ratio either much higher or much lower than 1. A pitcher who consistently coaxes groundouts (i.e., Dallas Keuchel) or flyouts (i.e., Marco Estrada) is preferable to a guy who doesn't really excel in either.
amalric7
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It also depends on your ballpark. A lot of flyballs in Coors Field means lots of HR, a lot of grounders in Petco means more base hits.

And the reverse applies, if your defence is up to it - you want ground balls in a small park, fly balls in a big one.

Updated Monday, June 6 2016 @ 3:06:19 pm PDT
Rock777
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I believe this is the link Steve posted on the subject previously: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pitching/batted-ball/

If you believe that article, pitchers want to keep the ball on the ground, while batters want to hit it in the air. .13 vs .05 runs per out.

● A line drive produces 1.26 runs per out, while fly balls produce 0.13 runs per out and ground balls produce 0.05 runs per out. In other words, batters want to hit lots of line drives and fly balls, while pitchers generally want to cause batters to hit ground balls.

● Players that don’t allow many balls in the air (higher GB% with lower FB% and LD%) generally have higher BABIPs and batting averages against, but allow fewer extra base hits.



So I generally look for my pitchers to have GB/FBs greater than 1 and batters to have GB/FB less then 1. However, this is just one stat in a whole slew of statistics you want to look at. I never look at any one stat in a vacuum.

Updated Monday, June 6 2016 @ 3:24:40 pm PDT
Rock777
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In retrospect, having something close to 1 might actually be a good thing, as it *might* be an indication of a higher LD% (line drives).

Additionally, low GB/FB% are valuable for homerun hitters. While a speedy bat with little power might actually do well hitting a lot of balls on the ground.

Updated Monday, June 6 2016 @ 3:27:52 pm PDT
Dan6176
Joined: 04/30/2016
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FIP is calculated by
Hr*13
+
BB&HB*3
-
K*2
÷
Ip
+
3.10
It's used to show a pitchers effectiveness independent of defense.


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