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#59344	06/13/2018 7:16:16 pm	Jun 20th, 2036
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings III.4	http://brokenbat.org/player/136347 http://brokenbat.org/player/144913 Velazquez and Cardenas were supposed to help solve my atrocious bullpen. They were two of a very small group of prospects that was any good when I first took over this team. But their results in the majors have been...not good. Velazquez was serviceable last year, but Cardenas has been complete trash. Both are struggling to get out of the low 90s in SI. Should I be holding onto them still, or is it foolish to keep throwing them out there expecting improvement?

#59345	06/13/2018 7:37:18 pm	Jun 20th, 2036
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1130 Deerfield Beach Rats V.7	Looking at their growth trends from the past two seasons, if they’re slowing down at this point they may be close to where they’re going to get. I’d give them both until the end of the season if it were my team, but if they don’t shape up (or at least give acceptable performances), I’d probably send them packing. Cárdenas, if his FIP is to be believed, might at least partially a victim of bad luck. Velazquez is the more questionable of the two in my book. He has a considerably worse HR/9 and a lower GB/FB ratio, and I don’t think the better K/BB or BB/9 ratio is enough to offset those — you can get double plays or work around walks (which Cárdenas seems to allow every other inning), but double plays after home runs are going to happen after the damage is already done. That’s my two cents, anyway.

#59349	06/14/2018 12:03:03 am	Jun 20th, 2036
JJNZ Joined: 12/09/2014 Posts: 1580 Yakima Monster III.3	Velazquez has probably had enough rope, his HR rate is horrendous and wasn't great in the minors either. I'd give Cardenas a while longer, I suspect a couple of weeks in AAA will help him also

#59356	06/14/2018 1:47:00 pm	Jun 20th, 2036
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9597 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I'd agree. Velazquez looks like a home run machine. Unfortunately common for guys with high K rates. I wouldn't trust him with anything past MR. Cárdenas is less impressive with Ks, but also less dangerous for HRs. I'm not a big fan of his build, but I think Cárdenas is more likely to pan out in the stretch. Still not sure I would trust him in a SET role, but probably more reliable at MR than Velazquez.

#59359	06/14/2018 4:25:11 pm	Jun 23rd, 2036
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings III.4	Yeah, I've learned fastball pitchers are a total liability in this game, hence why I've tried to avoid drafting them, but these guys were leftovers from the old owner. So I'll probably cut Velazquez tomorrow if my draft pick is a keeper or I win one of the lottery claims that process saturday. Updated Thursday, June 14 2018 @ 4:25:31 pm PDT