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#63762	03/15/2019 2:09:56 pm	Feb 19th, 2040
michaeltodd2 Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 325 Paradise Valley Cubs II.2	Indeed...thanks!

#63764	03/15/2019 2:40:51 pm	Feb 19th, 2040
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Wow. People often cry about the "injustice" of the draft, while waivers go by in wild randomness. Some strike gold over and over in a season, while others go hitless. I've been in both zones. Unfortunately this season I'm batting 0 for 87.

#63767	03/15/2019 6:20:18 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
Longviewess Joined: 09/23/2018 Posts: 111 Frederick Keys III.3	The waiver wire is far more broken than the draft. There is no skill involved in clicking a button and adding your team to the list of several dozen others claiming on some players. Being able to put in 20 claims in a single day is absurd and frankly part of the problem. There is no way any team can add that many players at once. There should be some sort of cost of placing a claim that discourages spamming claims across two dozen players at once. Make it cost $10K, $20K per claim and you won't see 100+ claims on players very much anymore.

#63769	03/15/2019 8:37:20 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1130 Deerfield Beach Rats V.7	Make it cost $10K, $20K per claim and you won't see 100+ claims on players very much anymore. The players and prospects who get 100+ claims now would still get 100+ claims even if it cost to put in claims on them. They’re the guys it’s worth “playing the lottery” for. It’s the more marginal ones who would wind up getting fewer claims put in on them.

#63770	03/15/2019 8:54:48 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1002 Deadwood Perambulators II.1	The players and prospects who get 100+ claims now would still get 100+ claims even if it cost to put in claims on them. They’re the guys it’s worth “playing the lottery” for. It’s the more marginal ones who would wind up getting fewer claims put in on them. Agreed.

#63774	03/15/2019 11:50:06 pm	Mar 2nd, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2790 Novi Doubledays III.4	There is no skill involved in clicking a button and adding your team to the list of several dozen others claiming on some players. I do take some exception to this. Evaluating players is the only real skill I use in this game. Which 15 or 20 players out of the hundreds (thousands?) that are on waivers on any given day to start the season are worth a spot on your roster? Probably not the same 15 to 20 I'd choose. All of the guys I won are flawed in one way or another (Vines has been stuck in A for a while, Clayton has no hit tool and isn't trained to his position at 23, Simmons has terrible minors numbers and has one weak scouted pitch. Alomar, who I think fits my style best, doesn't have any power, etc.) None of them were in my top five for their day's claims (Simmons was dead last on the list for his day) and most are in the claim range I'd expect to win with 20 claims in. Vines is the only real outlier with 46 claims. I've also been on both sides of it. This was a very unusual start for me. I'm usually in the whiff club at this point and only really make up some gains after people start dropping off after the All-Star game. When it comes to waivers in Broken Bat, Wayne Gretzky was partly right. You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take, but you also miss 100 percent of the guys over your roster limit. Knowing who to cut and when is also a pseudo-skill in this game. Roster spots are valuable. How you use them is has a lot to do with how successful you'll be.

#63776	03/16/2019 4:22:56 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
Longviewess Joined: 09/23/2018 Posts: 111 Frederick Keys III.3	You're all proving the point that the system is broken and that we should just deal with it. That's insanity. Want to really, really fix things? If roster slots are so valuable, then make it so you can place the same number of waiver claims as you have open roster spots. Sitting on 49/50? Better choose that 1 waiver claim very carefully. No more spamming claims. No more big lotteries. Talent spread around more.

#63779	03/16/2019 4:35:46 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2790 Novi Doubledays III.4	Plenty of good suggestions have been made to address the influence of luck in waivers and the draft. Made several myself. Waivers may change in the future. The draft is changing as we speak. For now, we play the game as is. Is it ideal? No. Is it better than the way most of the MMO Sports games handle free agency? For me, yes it is.

#63782	03/16/2019 8:22:29 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9588 Haverhill Halflings III.1	There is far more strategy in waivers. I might not claim a decent player if I have a couple better options with claims. At least with the waivers we can actually see and evaluate all the players. In the draft, we get 10 crappy guys to choose from. Picking the best out of a pile of garbage for the 1st round is still going to be a garbage player. It won't matter how much evaluation you do if you are choosing between a bunch of POT 9 players in the 1st round.

#63784	03/16/2019 8:53:03 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
FreddyTheEye Joined: 11/11/2014 Posts: 625 Inactive	If roster slots are so valuable, then make it so you can place the same number of waiver claims as you have open roster spots. Very interesting indeed. Perhaps a little too harsh but some kind of limit to number of claims really might add more skill/fairness to the waiver system. Target the highest si players or target by position needs? etc. Also +1 to everything Haselrig posted in this thread.