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#28931	01/14/2016 8:06:12 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I would nominate Booth. His stats clearly aren't as bad, but I would argue his performance relative to his skill set is worse.

#28932	01/14/2016 8:14:03 am
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	I counter your Booth [not suited for his role as a starter, 10 Stamina] and raise you with a Day. Proof that 115 SI is meaningless.

#28933	01/14/2016 8:34:08 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	not suited for his role as a starter, 10 Stamina Ah. That's why he gets trashed in the 1st or 2nd inning all the time. How much stamina is required to be a starter?

#28934	01/14/2016 8:46:43 am
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	I'd say 13 at the least. Having a Starter line in the scouting report could help as well. Not saying he can't be a stater, just that his skills aren't being optimized.

#28935	01/14/2016 9:47:19 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	I agree with Spoon on this, though slightly differ in that I think some guys regardless of SI or stamina specifically, just stink whenever they get put in the starting role. Seen that with several guys, Gray doesn't perform very well as a starter, neither does Pope on my team, and Calvo one of my former players is excelling for Kennesaw now that he has transitioned into the bullpen.

#28936	01/14/2016 9:50:40 am
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1	To get you through innings 1 and 2 I would say you need a minimum of 5 stamina.

#28946	01/14/2016 1:36:23 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Bradley is one of the three starters that has carried my team to its current league. His 10 stamina has never been a problem. I've seen numerous guys with less than 10 stamina who excelled in the starting role. Stamina plays into fatigue. One of the teams in west used a 4 man rotation through inter-league. Twice I faced a starter on 2 days rest. Both times he pitched better than the first start. Both times he won. In this series just past, every one of my opponents starters was on short rest and fatigued. Every one of my starters was on full rest. I don't see that I benefitted. I have trouble accepting that Booth's poor season is my fault.

#28950	01/14/2016 2:31:41 pm
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	I never said it was a problem, I said it wasn't optimal. Bradley as pitched more than 180 innings only twice. He has never has a season with above .500 QS/GS ratio which is what I'd consider at least average for a starting pitching. What do those numbers combined say to me? He pitches well early and has come out before the latter innings. Can one win that way? Yes, definitely... but would the starting pitching perform better in a different role? I have no idea because we can simulate both scenario. I'd suspect he'd play better as a MR/LR or even a setup guy but if you have better at those spots having him in the rotation might be optimal for the team [because there are more variables at play and just reading SI numbers].

#28973	01/15/2016 5:25:03 am
dwindacatcher Joined: 04/03/2014 Posts: 633 Inactive	His name makes me giggle.

#50583	06/30/2017 3:25:28 am
shikago Joined: 11/29/2011 Posts: 229 Inactive	RIP Anthony Young https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/sports/baseball/anthony-young-mets-died.html Suddenly remembered this thread a couple days after hearing about that. Anyway, interesting to see that Oono actually had 2 decent seasons in D5 after I released him. Statistically he performed even better than my 114 skill index pitcher who is also in D5. Go figure. Updated Friday, June 30 2017 @ 3:25:52 am PDT