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Rock777
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I consider over 1 per 10 innings to be bad. But being bad at giving up HRs doesn't mean he is a bad pitcher. It just means he is bad in that one aspect. So you have to consider all the other statistics as well. If you have a lot (or very few) pitchers giving up homeruns it can give you a hint about how you might want to change up your ballpark.

Its also worth comparing to his GB/FB to drive out a little bit of the luck factor. If the guy has a GB/FB of 1.70, then he might just be getting unlucky.

Updated Monday, June 13 2016 @ 8:16:10 am PDT
brentswagger
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I really don't put too much concern in home runs allowed as long as their overall numbers are good. One of my best young pitchers is 18-10 with a 2.91 ERA but has allowed a whopping 33 Home Runs so far in 257 innings. He also leads my staff with the lowest WHIP at 1.087 so he can get away with giving up the long ball more often.
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I have a guy that I just promoted. In AAA this season he gave up 37! HR in 262 innings. But he also struck out 276, had an ERA of 3.43, FIP of 3.31, and GB/FB of 1.13. When guys actually do hit the ball against him they hit more grounders but the balls that are hit in the air tend to leave the yard. Strange. I wonder if expanding my outfield would help his numbers...
Rock777
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From what I've seen, 1.13 is really more average. I'm not sure how that's possible, but a lot of pitcher actually seem to do much better than that. HRs is definitely a factor for me, but its not the only factor.
Jason2327
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So then a 1.57 gb/fb is better than 1.07?
dsz071
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From what I've seen, 1.13 is really more average.



I wasn't implying that 1.13 was great, not at all. I threw it in there because it does mean he gives up more ground balls than fly balls, that's all. I was just trying to say that my guy doesn't give up very many fly balls, but out of the ones he does give up a decent amount of them leave the park.

So then a 1.57 gb/fb is better than 1.07?



In terms of giving up HR, yes.

Updated Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:28:10 am PDT
Seca
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In most instances I'm looking for at least 10 innings pitched per dinger.

This is also my rule of thumb.

HR allowed is one of the first / most important things I consider when making pitching culls.
Rock777
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So then a 1.57 gb/fb is better than 1.07?



As dsz071 alluded to, if you have a guy that has a very low GB/FB, but doesn't give up home runs, it might not be bad. Forcing a hitter to pop up is usually good. As long at that pop up doesn't go over the fence. To be on the safe side, I prefer ground ball pitchers when I have the opportunity. You can get more DPs with ground ball pitchers, but they also can give up more singles.

Updated Monday, June 13 2016 @ 11:46:23 am PDT
brentswagger
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Luckily for me I don't have enough talent at this point to worry about HR/IP when cutting down my roster. I have a ton of room for improvement yet.
Rock777
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I think that is when the game is the most fun. Its less stressful when you know you can't be making a mistake cutting a guy ;)


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