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#51111	07/16/2017 9:05:01 am
Tiger504 Joined: 06/17/2014 Posts: 1314 Kalamazoo Bloody Tigers III.4	I think that maybe, over the course of several seasons, I have undervalued base running skills (Not necessarily base stealing skills). While I watch other teams go from 1st to 3rd on a single etc, my team plays station to station. But if I get aggressive on settings I get inning killing runners gunned down at the plate. I also have a couple of boat anchors. How badly can a boat anchor clog things up? My experience says...significantly. Not sure what I want to do. Anyone have some philosophies they're proud of?

#51115	07/16/2017 9:52:34 am
dsz071 Joined: 09/12/2015 Posts: 334 Inactive	The past couple seasons I just really started messing with my base running settings to the point where, if I have time and if I remember, I'll check the arm of the opposing catcher and adjust my base stealing accordingly. As far as base running, I think I have a pretty aggressive approach. I have anyone over a 14 Speed rating set to ++. Sure, I get guys thrown out at the plate from time to time but I feel like the aggressive approach has helped my team succeed the last couple seasons. If you look at my roster, I have one player that I would consider a superstar. Then I have a couple pretty good guys and the rest are just ok. In my league my offensive numbers are very middle of the road. BA - 2 Hits - 2 OBP - 7 Runs scored - 6 RISP - 5 SB - 2 I feel that if I didn't have the aggressive approach to base running/stealing I wouldn't be in the position I'm in. I just don't have the offensive horses to keep up with other teams. My team wins with pitching and defense (the giant ballpark helps me out there) but I think that running helps my team out quite a bit.

#51117	07/16/2017 11:41:10 am
Frankebasta Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 884 Kodiak Mules III.3	We've been told Fielding Range is an aggregate factor of all fielders' range. I fear the same might be the case for base running. It may involve the average speed of team players, not the actual base runner.

#51118	07/16/2017 12:10:58 pm
Tiger504 Joined: 06/17/2014 Posts: 1314 Kalamazoo Bloody Tigers III.4	Franke, I fear you may be right

#51120	07/16/2017 1:40:24 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Really? Haven't seen it. 19 speed McCarty has 13 triples this season. 5 speed Enriquez has 12 triples in his 10 season career.

#51147	07/17/2017 5:05:27 am
Tiger504 Joined: 06/17/2014 Posts: 1314 Kalamazoo Bloody Tigers III.4	I hadn't considered extra base hits like triples as being a part of this equation but that's a pretty good point. I have considered this though.... Let's say McCarty is on 2nd and Enriquez is on first. Johnny Risp hits a single and McCarty goes for home and Enriquez heads for third. Instead of McCarty being a 19 going home the calculation actually might be for the chance of both runners making it. 19+5=24÷2= 12 speed. I've considered it but I don't really buy into it. Because double steals. More likely it's just a matter of the Enriquez and Johnny Wockenfuss types clogging up the base paths.

#51157	07/17/2017 7:54:30 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	The clogging thing is a good question. I've had Enriquez for a while. Early on I was worried his speed was damping extra base hits behind him. It is intuitive to think if he is slow, he is turning doubles behind him into singles, etc.. I watched pretty closely for a few seasons. I didn't see anything to support this. The guys behind Enriquez didn't seem to be suffering (they may have been, but I couldn't see it). My sense is that the hit is determined by the batter/defence/ballpark before looking at any runners on base. Again my opinion, but I feel slow baserunners don't clog so much - more that they don't flow well (subtle difference?). Enriquez doesn't stop the guy behind him from hitting a double, but he rarely gets further than 3rd. Once on 3rd, he has a hard time tagging/advancing. The only situation where he prevents a runner from advancing is Enriquez on 3rd, another runner on 2nd, and Enriquez holding on an infield grounder. Enriquez didn't last long with a " " setting. Got thrown out a lot, noticeably more than his peers. Set him to "--" and he still got thrown out a lot (to the extent I think I made a post in Bugs to complain about it ). I've had him and Schneider on "X" the past few seasons. (But I think I am relatively conservative with my settings). I think its fair to question if fielding or arm function as aggregates, given how range works. But baserunning seems a stretch.

#51159	07/17/2017 8:14:50 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	This might be a better way to explain it. I think baserunning functions much like stealing bases. Almost like a separate play to resolve after the hit. Runner on 1st. Batter hits a double. This puts the baserunner on 3rd. This has all happened without the baserunner being in the equation. Now the baserunner decides if he is going to advance. Runner speed + runner setting + arm/defence go into the decision.