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#56795	12/18/2017 4:19:49 pm	Oct 22nd, 2034
jetsrock48 Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 150 Davenport Cobras IV.3	I like fielding and range at 1B. If they aren't good enough for 2B that is where I stash them. I think this guy is a perfect 1B (Keith Hernandez). Lefty so don't really want to put him at any other IF position. His arm is way too low to put in CF or RF so your down to either 1B or LF. His really high fielding will make him a gold glove at first. A+ in my opinion. Offensively he should hold up in Leagues VI and V. I see him as a multiple all star type player if he continues to put up those numbers offensively with multiple gold gloves as well.

#56804	12/18/2017 6:22:16 pm	Oct 24th, 2034
Tiger504 Joined: 06/17/2014 Posts: 1314 Kalamazoo Bloody Tigers III.4	I really like him at 1B. Maybe you don't need fielding at 1B but it sure doesn't hurt. I personally like to have a good glove at 1B. As evidence, you may check out Crespo, Luna, or up and comer Foster. I think his arm is awful for CF. I like his power, even if he's a bit of an offensive ugly duckling otherwise. I think you should enjoy him. Maybe you'll find a better 1B one of these days but that's his best position. LF is the only other choice but his fielding is better at 1B than his range is in LF IMO. Edit: I would have no problem with Flynn at 1B either. Updated Monday, December 18 2017 @ 6:24:07 pm PST

#56814	12/18/2017 8:42:45 pm	Oct 24th, 2034
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Flynn looks like a good 1B to me.

#56826	12/19/2017 6:54:54 am	Oct 24th, 2034
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2237 New York Lancers V.4	This is interesting. I have no issue at all with a 19 Glove at 1B, but that 16 Range is wasted there for me - for the most part I save 1B for good bat, low range guys (and there's plenty of those around). On my team I haven't noticed any difference defensively whether its Miranda or Connelly out there at first, which leads me to believe (also going on something I read Steve say about position weights) that Range makes minimal difference there. Range is the most important attribute defensively in the OF however, and I'll take that over Fielding and Arm every time (although all three would be nice). Which is why I would play De La Garza over Flynn in the OF every time - Flynn is absolutely not an OF for me with that Range, under any circumstance: he's 1B/DH only. Of course, you can only work with the tools at your disposal. My outfielders are one 18 Range guy in CF and the rest are Range 13-14, but the best Arm I can manage is a mere 10. At least they can all hit! The days of Lawson's 18 Range/18 Arm in CF and Fletcher's 15 Range/17 Arm in RF are sadly long gone.

#56827	12/19/2017 6:55:44 am	Oct 24th, 2034
motko Joined: 09/06/2014 Posts: 358 Nauvoo The Great Horned Owl IV.6	all the defensive skills are veeeeery secondary with 1b. The franchise 1b should be killer offensve-wise...or will be replaced season after season By left over FAs.

#56832	12/19/2017 7:34:13 am	Oct 24th, 2034
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1002 Deadwood Perambulators II.1	@amalric @all But isn't it impossible, without watching all your games and paying close attention or even taking notes, to tell how many ground balls your 1B is letting through to right field... and that would be where the range comes into play, no? Meaning, ok --- your 1B might have a high fielding percentage with only mediocre/decent Fielding rating, and you'd see that in his stats, but can you really know how his range is or isn't stopping ground ball singles into right field? Jeff

#56835	12/19/2017 8:13:19 am	Oct 24th, 2034
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	that 16 Range is wasted there for me I've never been fond of the term "wasted" in these types of discussions. "Bonus" seems more appropriate to me. Meaning, ok --- your 1B might have a high fielding percentage with only mediocre/decent Fielding rating, and you'd see that in his stats, but can you really know how his range is or isn't stopping ground ball singles into right field? I'm on board with this. Lets say you could move 4 points of his range to PD. Would that help your team? That range is active every time the opponent puts the ball in play. Sure its not as helpful on a 1B as it would be a CF, but it is still providing value. Is that value more than 8 PD vs. 12 PD? Almost certainly. His PD would still be bad, and it only gets used ~4 times per game. I feel Rock777's assessment is a little bit harsh. I would expect his average to dip as you climb, but it wouldn't surprise me if his power was more resilient. A 30 HR LHB is an asset regardless of position. Couple that with gold glove caliber defense, and I feel you have a nice puzzle piece at your disposal moving forward.

#56837	12/19/2017 8:43:02 am	Oct 24th, 2034
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	PS - good luck with Jack Foster. I was hesitant to cut him. When I drafted Bolton I decided to go with the homegrown guy instead. Wouldn't surprise me if Foster ends up being the better player.

#56839	12/19/2017 9:09:42 am	Oct 24th, 2034
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1002 Deadwood Perambulators II.1	@seca hah thanks re: foster. I've got my fingers crossed for either a great backup C or a decent/good starting C in about 6 or 7 seasons. re: my 1b situation, for the playoffs I've moved De La Garza to the outfield and Flynn to 1B. Through the regular season I've had some people playing out of position, learning new positions (or just because I didn't have a place for them to play but wanted their development to continue). I was lucky (or good) enough to outhit the consequences, but in the playoffs I don't want to risk some bad defense in a short series. However, I think I've decided to return De La Garza to 1B in 2035 and enjoy that range in the infield. Means Flynn has to be my full time DH.

#56844	12/19/2017 9:59:25 am	Oct 24th, 2034
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I think Range is useful for all players, but it probably has a small effect at 1B. That is why I would rather have range else where. No problem with range at 1B. I actually value range higher than fielding at 1B, its just that I range higher at every other position (other than Catcher). Hitting an Power on the other hand will definitely have a positive impact at 1B, which is why I prioritize those. If a guy has a lot of range and fielding, it means his hitting skills are going to be lower.