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#13339	01/08/2015 6:54:20 pm
Bilbo Shaggins Joined: 01/01/2015 Posts: 59 Inactive	What would happen if you created 14 more teams, made 32 league's with 24 teams and then made each of those league's economically equal? Each league champion could play in a 32 team tournament much like the world classic. This tournament could be the Cup classic or something. Just a thought.

#13352	01/09/2015 8:58:48 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5237 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Applying Soccer-style promotion to baseball is part of what gives BrokenBat its charm. It would be a radical change to remove it. Right now, for example, games are potentially important right to #160 regardless of your league position. A fight to avoid relegation can be just as intriguing as the battle for first. In your proposed system, the majority of the teams would be playing unimportant games for big chunks of the season. What should managers be thinking for ballpark size this coming season? Should most everyone have a 40k seat stadium? Should teams be following the current recommendations in the Rules? Will the recommendations in the Rules be updated when the changes go Live?

#13356	01/09/2015 9:09:03 am
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Inactive	The only league size change that might have some interest to me would be making the Legends League the same size as most professional sports leagues, somewhere in the 30 team range. That would allow for more long-term rivalries to develop and set that league apart from the lower leagues a bit. There should be more perks for getting there.

#13366	01/09/2015 2:17:18 pm
cmneal Joined: 05/25/2014 Posts: 33 Inactive	I find Haselrig's idea interesting. I'm nowhere close to the legends league, but it would be cool if it were like that. The easiest way to do it though would be to make it a 40 team league with four divisions of ten. That way you are still promoting/demoting the same number of teams. A built in added perk that only one team per Legend division would be demoted. Or I guess you could do 30 teams and just demote the four with the worst records.

#13367	01/09/2015 3:20:11 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5237 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I thought the whole reason for having this discussion is that the perks for being in the top league are too great. Isn't the prestige of playing in the top league a perk? What does doubling or tripling the size of the league do to that prestige? How does a larger, less intimate league lead to greater rivalries? Not facing the same teams? Look at Legends West. THB - 4 of last 4 seasons Applewood - 4 of last 4 Burlington - 3 of last 4 Las Vegas - 3 of last 4 San Francisco - 3 of last 4 Why should your chance of being demoted be 1 of 3 in lower leagues, but 1 of 7 in the top league? What does any of this have to do with the economy? Why do I ask so many questions?

#13368	01/09/2015 3:25:29 pm
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Inactive	Just stirrin' the pot

#13369	01/09/2015 3:47:32 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5237 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Haha. I don't mean to be a hard-ass. I personally really like the current structure (could you tell?). I have lots of rivalries (4 of the 5 teams in my division this season are teams I've played before). 1/2 the league either promoting or demoting usually makes it interesting regardless of whether you are at the top or the bottom. Either way, I don't see how league restructuring relates to attendance & the economy.

#13420	01/11/2015 6:20:38 pm
cqk328 Joined: 07/28/2014 Posts: 289 Inactive	Hey Steve, Being a division VI team I obviously don't draw in a lot of fans. Last year I averaged about 5000 fans per game. With the attendance changes, should I expect to see an increase or would it probably stay about the same?

#13434	01/12/2015 3:00:42 pm
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 5035 Administrator	Yes, I think your attendance should increase. With the current plan, I don't see any club averaging less than 10k per game. Steve

#13561	01/16/2015 7:09:31 pm
slugfest2015 Joined: 12/21/2014 Posts: 168 Inactive	what about bottom level teams,10000? 25000? 35000? Updated Friday, January 16 2015 @ 7:11:31 pm PST