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michaeltodd2
Joined: 02/20/2018
Posts: 325

Paradise Valley Cubs
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Generally speaking, i don't like low control pitchers. But i wonder...Occasionally i see low control pitchers with 3 or 4 years of decent stats. The last guy i tried, Stu Kelly ID#149619,had 3 years in a row, 2036-2038, with an average era of 2.00 and a whip of around 1.00. His innings pitched averaged about 30 innings those years, as he had a low stamina also. So i played him, set a low hook and pitch count on him, and put him in as a lefty specialist. Needless to say the results weren't to good. But im left to wonder many things.If i played him differently somehow, could i squeeze some quality innings out of him maybe? Also, this guy had decent stats in Velocity, Change of Speed and Movement. If i find free agent/waiver pitchers with low control, but solid enough in the other 3 attributes (Velocity, Change of Speed, Movement) are they redeemable/valuable at all? If so, how do i play them effectively? Or maybe they're just not worth it at all, ever?? Opinions? Thank you.
lostraven
Joined: 07/02/2016
Posts: 1269

Corvallis Ravens
II.1

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Might take a look at this thread I posted earlier in the month. I'll also add (or reaffirm) careful monitoring of HR/9 and BB/9 rate as the pitcher progresses through your farm system. If you're going to take a chance on a low Control pitcher, best they aren't giving up homers like crazy and walking the entire lineup.
Seca
Joined: 05/05/2014
Posts: 5201

Waterloo Dinosaurs
Legends

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Kelley

I definitely agree he was worth a shot given the numbers he put up in Memphis. I'm also onboard with cutting him, tho I think there is some small sample size noise in his performance for Paradise Valley.

You give up some consistency with low control guys. They can be dominant. But they will be a little off more frequently than a typical guy.

Things that work for me:
- low control guys must be masters at HR suppression
- try to bring them in with as little on base as possible. For me this means the first guy out of the pen when the starter hooks, or behind another reliever that is really on his game.
- keep the pitch count relatively low. When they are on, they will get work done. When they are off, they'll pop with relatively little damage. (Because pitch count is low, hook for these guys doesn't matter much)
- try to follow them up with a high control guy so that if they BB'd a couple, the next guy doesn't make it worse.
- for the love of baseball, don't follow them with a high HR guy

Lefty specialist is one of the hardest things to get right (harhar). Effectiveness is really opponent dependent. My own bullpen LHP is constantly shuffling between LHSU, MR and unassigned roles. Takes some finesse to not screw up. But LHSU is another essay unto itself. :)
Mcdoogle
Joined: 05/21/2015
Posts: 243

Inactive

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Guerra

I personally like low control pitchers, currently running with this guy. He's on a make or break season for me right now, don't like 26 HRs but he did win 16 games which IMO matters most.

I agree with Seca, if you're going to run with low control pitchers, HR suppression is absolutely the key to do it (IMO, its the key for all pitchers in this game). If hes low control and giving up HRs left and right, he's not on my team (usually).

They're a risk, but worth it if they can find good form.


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