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#63168	02/17/2019 10:25:41 am	Aug 25th, 2039
Blackbeard Joined: 02/02/2019 Posts: 36 Inactive	I just started the game. I read the manual, looked at teams above me, read the forum, etc., etc. I think I have at least a basic understanding of the game and have set up my lineup etc with what I have on the team including what seem like better free agent signings. I have been getting rid of low potential guys and others that don't seem able to contribute to the major league team now or in the future. With that said I have this 23 y/0 player named Lance Burton [ID #182823]. His stats or potentials if you will aren't good. Plus his scouting report doesn't offer up anything other than saying he "can develop into a decent slugger." From what I have read on the forum people have said that a prospect needs to have at least one attribute saying he "can be a good hitter" "he can have an unhitable fastball", etc.. This guys only good attribute as far as I'm concerned is that he has a 19 arm, 13 on potential and his SI is rather high at 89 (but the stats are not in the right places). My question is this. It says that "He may have learned all he can at this level of competition." Is this guy all done with training in the minors as he is now in AAA? He is not ready for the major league team. At only 23 with a Pot of 13, can this guy still develop in to something while staying in AAA where he is now for maybe a couple more seasons? I think that he has nothing to offer and will never be good enough for the top team and should be cut. As a newbie, I'm not sure. What do you think? Thank you for the opinions. Updated Sunday, February 17 2019 @ 10:27:30 am PST

#63169	02/17/2019 11:04:55 am	Aug 25th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I don't think it will hurt his development if you leave him down for the rest of this season. His Hitting growth has been very poor (1 point), so I wouldn't expect him to get higher than 9 or 10 for hitting. That said, he is a pretty good catcher defensively. If you have him set to train at catcher for the rest of the season he should get pretty close to getting a small "c". He isn't the optimal choice, but you only have one real catcher on the major league squad. You often need a backup for Catcher, and the guy you have is also getting old. So you might need Burton to bridge to whoever you have as your next Catcher. You may need him in the majors this year just to spot your starting Catcher when he gets niggling injuries. The only other guys you currently have in the minors who could potentially play catcher are Sexton and Dennison. Sexton is a long ways from the majors, and is probably better suited for SS training. Dennison looks like a slightly better hitter than Burton, but looks to be training elsewhere. I don't think Dennison is really good enough for SS. His defensive build works better as a C/RF, or possibly a poor fielding C/3B. You'll only have time for one, so I would probably make him a C. Burton can backup Dennison when Dennison comes up (unless you find a better prospect in the mean time). I do recommend you actively look for some better options on waivers, but waivers are about to close for the season, so you might have to wait until next season.

#63174	02/17/2019 11:19:19 am	Aug 25th, 2039
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	TLDR - In the long term, I believe your read on Burton is correct. Not much to offer. In the short term, his arm behind the plate could be important. Especially in a backup role.

#63177	02/17/2019 12:34:12 pm	Aug 25th, 2039
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Considering his only value is as a defensive specialist, poor position knowledge further kneecaps him. Roster spots have value. Investing more time in this guy with the best possible outcome being a backup catcher is poor return. I appreciate that it's tough cutting good potential bars. I've tried to cut Stahl every day for a week, and he's still there. So I agree with Blackbeard's instincts. This guy is an easy cut. If you think you need a catcher prospect, there are better options in waivers / free agency. 12 potential guys can handle that position just fine. Otherwise, find a 12 pot pitcher 20-23 that you think might have some magic and give him a whirl. It's much easier to fill a position player opening through waivers than to add quality pitching depth.

#63188	02/17/2019 9:55:17 pm	Aug 29th, 2039
Blackbeard Joined: 02/02/2019 Posts: 36 Inactive	Thank you all very much for the opinions and advice. Very much appreciated. The team was pretty lean when I acquired it. I cut some of the older guys that didn't seem to have many viable skills. Then I cut some of the prospects that didn't seem to be very prosperous as in they had less than a 12 pot with seemingly no skills either in hitting or fielding. My thoughts about real life base ball and I think it holds true here is that if the guy can hit the ball and get on base and he stinks in the field then there can always be a place for him at DH or 1B. I have a few guys like that on the team and want to first go for a hitting team and build fielding and especially pitching as I go along. I have been quite active in the free agent market along with Waivers. I freed up 4 open slots and am carrying 46 players with the hopes that I can land a good waiver guy. I understand that getting a guy off waivers is not easy when there are 96 managers that have him on their waiver list. I played a similar text manager game called Hockey Arena and was in it for near 6 years and went to the top! Their free agent system worked differently because if there was a player you wanted you had to be online bidding and updating the page at the exact time the free agency ended. Not much fun. I like the waiver system here, its more like a lottery and if you go for the lesser waiver players you have a better chance. I have waiver claims on 10 or 12 guys. maybe I'll get lucky and get one. If not I'll keep looking. I like this game because its not easy and that makes it be a challenge. I have read the forum a lot and read the manual which has helped. I also signed a couple free agent pitchers that had very low control at 5 or 6. Got rid of them after they put up a bunch of walks and wild pitches. I'm now focusing more on control. Thanks again for all the help and opinions. I think I will hang on to him for a while because he does have the good arm and he's young. Plus my new manager has 16 in fielding dev. and 15 in player dev. so maybe that will give him a boost. The negative is that he stinks at pitcher dev. which is at 4. But since I want to be a hitting team first, he is good at managing hitters at 16 which seems to be pretty good. Cheers. Updated Sunday, February 17 2019 @ 9:55:57 pm PST Updated Sunday, February 17 2019 @ 9:58:44 pm PST

#63197	02/18/2019 8:27:27 am	Aug 29th, 2039
FreddyTheEye Joined: 11/11/2014 Posts: 625 Inactive	I played a similar text manager game called Hockey Arena and was in it for near 6 years and went to the top! I use to really like that game!! What was your team name? Ever hear of BlackHoleVacuumTube (Canadian team)? Cheers!

#63199	02/18/2019 9:23:36 am	Aug 29th, 2039
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I played Hockey Arena for a while too. Like Freddy, I was in the Canadian pyramid. It was so long ago. I'm not even sure what my team name was ... think it was Valiant? Like so many other sports management games I've played, it eventually fell victim to "it's just not as good as BrokenBat".

#63203	02/18/2019 10:56:24 am	Aug 29th, 2039
Blackbeard Joined: 02/02/2019 Posts: 36 Inactive	I was in the American divisions. My teams name was the Springfield Indians. A real minor league team I followed in Massachusetts. I lived in Connecticut at the time and I guess you could say I followed the teams in Boston. Now that I live in Florida I plan on moving my team to someplace in Florida (probably Tampa or Miami) and go from there. I think what ended my Hockey Arena was the tedious effort required to get good players and prospects. Plus it wasn't as much fun as I went along. Theres more here in BB than was in HA. I like to build things, obviously building the team which consisted of getting better players. Then I always liked building the different training, arena and other things. Once I got to the top after 5 years or so and I had all the facilities built, all that was left was to sometimes stay up late at night trying to out bid somebody else in order to get a player. That became tedious and coupled with my players getting old it felt like I was no longer just trying to replace old players, I needed to essentially rebuild the entire team. So I quit after being in the game for almost 6 years. Plus the regulars in div 1 weren't all that much fun any more and once you fell out of div 1 it wasn't easy to get back. lol

#63225	02/19/2019 7:58:48 pm	Sep 4th, 2039
michaeltodd2 Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 325 Paradise Valley Cubs II.2	I realize this isn't exactly what this thread was originally about, but what do you guys think of Hattrick and Buzzerbeater?

#63227	02/20/2019 12:55:10 am	Sep 4th, 2039
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2790 Novi Doubledays III.4	I always found both of those games a little flat. Steve took the best of what they where and fixed a lot of the flaws when he made this game.

#63231	02/20/2019 8:50:45 am	Sep 4th, 2039
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I was really fond of Hattrick. That said, its the only game I have ever "rage quit". I can provide details if you want (for Hattrick enthusiasts), but essentially months of work were undone by one extremely low probability event that had catastrophic consequences. I tried to like Buzzerbeater. I was put off by their drafting system. IIRC that was the game where you purposefully drafted baddies for a while building up points to where you could select something good. Again IIRC, that's also one of those games where great player get massive salaries and are thus readily available. I seem to think I got nuked a couple of times by teams that had clearly unsustainable rosters. (Could be wrong on that, was a while ago).

#63232	02/20/2019 9:00:29 am	Sep 4th, 2039
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2790 Novi Doubledays III.4	Bidding against other owners for players. Shudder.